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Egyptian domestic politics needs a major

reconciliation in order to prevent making future

revanchist generations

We must apply the principle of dialogue with the other and allow it to How do you evaluate the file of the Palestinian issue in general and
be present in our foreign policy. do you support the opinion that prefers sitting at the negotiating table
with Israel?
Yes, it is necessary to sit at the negotiating table, and this is what is
• You had diplomatic representation for Egypt in Libya, and you have
an important presence in the Libyan affairs. How do you assess the seen by many Egyptian diplomats, such as Amr Moussa, who made
earlier statements that have voiced a lot of what was on my mind. It is
current Libyan situation with the intensification of the conflict
not important to judge Trump's intentions regarding the proposal for
between the Saraj government and the Haftar army?
the peace plan, but the most important thing is to sit in peace talks
What Libya is experiencing now is a proxy war, and what Libya is
with the other party presenting our objection to Trump's proposal, and
witnessing denotes that external forces holds control of the fate of the
offering an alternative proposal. From here negotiations begin, and
Libyan people. Moreover, fighting untrained elements with no
we do not judge the negotiations before they start to fail.
professional training, affects civilians, and there induces great
The principle of division into phases may be an important point in
human cost.
resolving the issue. For example, obtaining a state that does not have
The solution is to involve all Libyan parties in the dialogue, including
full sovereignty at first with the condition that the Palestinian side is
the symbols of the Qaddafi regime, who, in my opinion, may serve as
not restricted, then over time we get a full sovereign state.
a bridge for communication between the eastern and western blocs.

• Can the Israelis be persuaded by the Palestinian proposal?
In my opinion, the Libyan crisis can be solved by forming a working
We convinced them of peace, and convinced them of Taba before
group consisting of the United States of America, Russia, the
that, why not?
European Union and France, on behalf of the regional parties to the

crisis, especially since their conflicts are intertwined and it is difficult
• Our attention was drawn to the mix of Islamic heritage with Arabic
for them to reach an agreement.
in your education and literature, and under the current demonization

of what is Islamic, how can this fusion between what is Arabic and
After that, a neutral referendum should be organized, supervised by
Islamic be restored?
the working group or any party accepted by the Libyans, which will
This is a good question, especially since it is not posed on the scene
pave the way for internal stability and stop foreign interference.
now, although the mixing between Islamic heritage and Arab identity
We do not want to repeat the historical mistake we made in 2011, and
is something that must be seriously proposed. In my estimation, we
allow external intervention to resolve the Libyan conflict, by calling
should not demonize all that is Islamic, why shouldn't we come with
the Arab League to NATO, a move that I consider to be a stain in the
figures from Hamas or Islamic Jihad to inquire about their
history of the Arab league.
experiences in the mixing of what is Arab and Islamic. There are also
• Recently, US President Donald Trump announced his plan for peace
countries that have achieved development while maintaining an
in the Middle East, or what is known as the Deal of the Century.
Islamic identity such as Malaysia, for example.
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